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Restore The Glory Podcast

Same-Sex Attraction (Part 1) Introduction

Restore The Glory Podcast

Jake Khym

Religion & Spirituality, Christianity

4.8880 Ratings

🗓️ 20 July 2022

⏱️ 63 minutes

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Summary

Jake and Bob begin a series on same-sex attraction with the desire to bring hope, clarity and understanding to this topic and the Church. Why this series? We have seen this topic impact many people who are trying to navigate this conversation well. As we move forward, we want to be sensitive and use great reverence toward the people that this directly affects, including our listeners. We believe that love and charity are essential in this discussion, as well as humility in the pursuit of truth. The depths of the human heart are holy ground.

Key Quote:

The number of men and women who have deep-seated homosexual tendencies is not negligible. This inclination, which is objectively disordered, constitutes for most of them a trial. They must be accepted with respect, compassion, and sensitivity. Every sign of unjust discrimination in their regard should be avoided. These persons are called to fulfill God's will in their lives and, if they are Christians, to unite to the sacrifice of the Lord's Cross the difficulties they may encounter from their condition. - CCC 2358

Key Points:

  • Jake and Bob introduce the topic, acknowledging that it is sensitive and may bring up many feelings for people
  • We believe that the Church teaches infallibly what is true, and we also believe that this topic can be discussed in the Church with greater charity and humility
  • Desires themselves are not inherently wrong, and disordered desires extend beyond same-sex attraction
  • We define what is meant by ‘psychological genesis’ and why the Catechism of the Catholic Church does not attempt to explain a psychological genesis for same-sex attraction
  • How to simultaneously honor the objective reality of who we are and the subjective reality of what we experience in our sexuality
  • Trauma is inflicted on those who experience homosexuality when they are not treated with dignity
  • Behind every disordered desire is a search for something good, for love
  • Jake and Bob acknowledge the mystery and the unknown behind several dimensions of this topic

Practical Application:

  1. Read and reflect on the section of the Catechism of the Catholic Church regarding the Sixth Commandment.

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0:00.0

Welcome to Restore the Glory Podcast.

0:07.0

My name is Jake Kim.

0:11.0

And I'm Bob Schutz. We're two Catholic therapists sharing what we've learned personally and professionally to help you on the journey of restoration.

0:20.0

If you've been blessed by our podcast, please prayerfully consider partnering with us on

0:24.2

Patreon. Your support will help cover the cost to produce the podcast, but will also give

0:29.4

you access to exclusive content like monthly reflections and special live stream teachings.

0:35.0

Go to Patreon.com slash restore the glory and join the mission of

0:41.0

experiencing the restoration of our God-given glory. the series on same sex attraction.

0:53.9

And I, Bob, there's so much that you and I are,

0:58.4

we actually just talked about, we talked for,

1:00.9

I don't know, maybe, we talked a lot and we've been talking a lot about this series because this is a such an important topic.

1:08.0

It's such a tender topic for a lot of people and I know that we want to just talk about this whole dynamic with utter sensitivity and care and at the same time talk about it without pride and without fear and

1:30.4

trying to represent the various positions that are you know reasonable and in line

1:37.2

with the church's teaching etc so listeners if you're like whoa it feels like

1:41.5

I'm coming in mid conversation like

1:43.7

where's the context here you are you're coming in mid conversation with Bob and I

1:48.3

dialoguing about this etc so any just initial thoughts about this whole topic before we kind of start getting into things.

1:56.1

Yeah, one of the things that we have wrestled with is even the title and you know whether we put healing in the title and not healing of but healing with or

2:04.4

healing and and we recognize that that's a trigger you know because of what's

2:09.6

happened in the culture and some some really bad experiences people have had with healing or with therapy or with conversion therapy or you know whatever you want to say.

2:23.0

And so right away, we're sensitive to our listeners

2:27.6

on every side of this issue,

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