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We've now had four presidents presidents subject to criminal investigations and potentially

prosecution. That really undermines public confidence in the presidency and the

Justice Department when presidents themselves are not held accountable.

Presidential powers go way beyond pardons. It's Monday, December 2nd, and this is here and now anytime.

From NPR and WBUR, I'm Chris Bentley.

Today on the show, two Democratic governors say they want to, quote,

safeguard democracy for the second Trump term.

We'll hear from Colorado's Jared Polis about how he plans to do that

and work with the incoming president at the same time.

Also, phone scams are ubiquitous, but if you think you'd never fall for one, think again.

The scams remain the same, but they are now using AI, and that allows them to mass produce

very, very good-looking scams, which are quite convincing.

Spotting scams around the holidays coming up in about 20 minutes.

But first, what to make of President Biden's pardon of his son Hunter?

The younger Biden was convicted earlier this year on gun charges and pleaded guilty to tax evasion.

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