Don't be all need to laugh a little given the dire state of the world.

All the more reason to welcome Samantha Erby, author of Wow No Thank You to the podcast

this week.

What can we expect from our leaders during periods of crisis?

John Meachim will be here to talk about what leadership looks like through the lens

of books about earlier crises.

Alexander Altair will give us an update from the publishing world.

Plus we'll talk about what we and the wider world are reading.

This is the Book Review Podcast for the New York Times.

It's April 17th.

I'm Pamela Paul.

Joining us now from Kalamazoo, Michigan, Samantha Erby, her new collection is called Wow

No Thank You.

Samantha, thanks for being here.

Thank you for having me.

Let's start with the obvious question, which I feel like is at the beginning and end of

every single email and text right now.

How are you doing?

I am actually doing okay, which feels like weird to say considering what's going on.

But I am an inside person, so I don't mind not getting fresh air and not saying hello

to people.

It is just sort of terrifying existing in the world.

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