Hi and welcome to the working songwriter, the show where today's best songwriters come to Talk Shop.

I'm your host, Joe Pug.

Each episode here, we host a distinguished guest, and we ask them to go deep on their

inspiration, on the process, on the general ups and downs of making a life in music.

So, whether you're a grizzled veteran, cutting a crossfade on

analog tape with the same razor blade that you use to line up Bolivian marching powder, or else,

a scrappy upstart, clicking a digital crossfade with the same mouse that you use to order

a healing crystal from urban outfitters.

This is your show, because ultimately it is what every writer seeks most,

an ironclad excuse to put off actually writing.

Hey everybody, it's the first Friday of August 2020,

and I thank you for joining us.

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