Hello and welcome to another episode of Happy Mum, Happy Baby, the podcast.

Today's guest is a business woman. She has her own fashion label. She is an ambassador

of the British Fashion Council as well as save the children. She won the Great Sports

Relief Bake Off in 2016, which I am in awe of. And she's a mother of four and married

to a man named David. You know, he was prime minister from 2010 to 2016, which means

that she has brought up children in Downing Street, which I find absolutely fascinating.

It is about the camera. Hi. Hi. Thank you so much for having me. It's lovely to be here.

It's very strange because we're together but not because we're doing this remotely. Yes,

we are in lockdown. We are four weeks. Are we now into lockdown, really? And we're at

very opposite ends of that because I've got three little ones running around to who require

a lot. And you've got older ones who, when we talked about this earlier, you said something

amazing. You're in lockdown at a point where, you know, they're teenagers. You're almost

starting to lose them a bit, but now they're stuck with you. So you've had to pull them

back a bit. You've got a bit more time with them. Yeah, no, it's been really lovely. I mean,

none of us had time to work out what we were expecting. And I think my daughter was

supposed to be doing GCSEs. So it was in sort of shock for the first couple of days and

I can't see my friends. But then suddenly they know they can't go anywhere. And so they're

not fighting against it. And so they're kind of very happy hanging out with you and you

feel like you've just got them kind of focused as a family for a little bit longer when they're

at that point where they're really trying to kind of fly the nest a bit. That must be

really nice. It is. It's been great. I actually really, really lovely supper. And I was telling

them about, I was actually this podcast. And I think we'll hopefully look back on this.

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