Hello everyone, welcome to Cafferoo Cast. Frank the Tank is across from me and we have the

nomadic and great Sam so hold on the line. Thanks for hopping on here.

Yeah, thanks for having me up. No problem. So I don't think you and I have ever actually

talked and I remember maybe we have. I just kind of follow you along on your adventures,

but you basically just kind of travel around and hunt and film and do whatever from what I gather.

Is that correct? Yeah, that's pretty much the gist of it. Just do a lot of freelance stuff and then

on the side is to come more full-time but I've kind of become a school bus driver over the last

year and a half. But yeah, pretty much just all freelance work and go wherever the wherever the

job takes me. Gotcha. How long have you been doing that? I've been doing the freelance gig since

2012. My first job in film photography was actually 2011. I worked for a white tail show down in

southern Iowa and then moved out to Colorado for a little stint and then moved up to Montana and

dove back into film and photography and but doing that ever since.

Gotcha. What do you do more film or photography or one of the other or both about equal?

So yeah, it's kind of funny. So most people start in photography and then they transition into film

and I did it the opposite. So I started all in film and it's no photography and then I started

to do a little bit more for myself and met a guy on a job who needed a photographer for an event

and I did a new product seminar for Remington Outdoors. He hired me on to come shoot photos of all

the writers that were going to be writing about the new the new products that Remington was coming

out with and that kind of launched me down the path of more photography. So I'd say I probably do

about, oh it's probably 80% photography and then 20% film each year. Yeah, so what are some of your

clients? I do a lot with Sitka and Onyx maps and doing stuff for Yamaha this year.

But I've worked with, I still do a lot for Yeti and but I've worked with Remington and

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