Welcome to Part 2 of Walking the Dog with the very wonderful Sam Ryder. Do go back and listen to Part 1 if you haven't already and do make sure to listen to Sam's brilliant new album, Heartland, because it's such a beautifully personal and intimate journey he takes you on. I cannot recommend it enough. And you can also catch Sam at his forthcoming gig at Wembley Arena.

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Here's Sam and his new best friend, Ray Ray.

I want to get onto your brilliant album.

But before we do, we're going to touch very briefly on the Eurovision, because that didn't, that's not who you are and it's not your identity, but it was a moment in your life and in all of our lives. Yeah, it was an era, as people would sort of like say now. Yeah. That's that's kind of like he's so slow sam look at him

just chilling ain't he through the buttercups you're not very stressy though are you i can't i can be

are you impatient yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah but not not around other people only the like low

i'm lowest gets the worst isn't that lowest gets the worst. Isn't that the

truth, right? The people you love most get the worst to you. Are you quite, so is it time or just,

we need to get things done? I think I'm quite like, I don't ever stop fidgeting and moving and

stuff like that, which can come across as impatience. But not really.

Like today, I've got nothing to be impatient about whatsoever. And yeah, it's just a lovely day.

So we should say what obviously got you to Eurovision in some ways was you had this, you built up

this huge following over TikTok

and during COVID.

And your videos, you know, looking back at those now,

I think why they particularly touch people at that time

was because of their simplicity and authenticity.

And that thing he was saying earlier, isn't it funny that you can imagine with something like that, you could start overthinking it and thinking, oh, well, this is too stripped back. I've only got a grey T-shirt. Is there a stain on it? What's the background like? Yeah, yeah, yeah. It felt like you didn't give a shit. And you thought, you know what? This is just me singing. Yeah.

I remember making those and when I spoke earlier about 25 being the sort of the event horizon

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