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And was one of the original guys at Pro Football Focus.

He left about a year ago to go to the 33rd team.

I've always enjoyed Sam's football analysis,

and I had them on my podcast over the weekend,

and I wanted to play a lot of it back.

Now, I started by asking him about the possibility

that Trey Hendrickson gets dealt before the draft or maybe on draft day.

Here's what he said.

I don't because I think the Bengals still desperately need them.

They tried to sort of future-proof that position a couple of years ago with drafting Miles Murphy in the first round.

That hasn't worked out.

And if they didn't have Trey Hendrickson in the last year's defense,

it would be one of the worst defenses that the game

has ever seen, even with him playing

at an all pro kind of level. It was a terrible

defense. So I think they need

to keep him around. I think there's a deal

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