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Evan & Tiki

Sam Mitchell on David Stern's Leadership

Evan & Tiki

Audacy

Sports

4.2988 Ratings

🗓️ 23 October 2025

⏱️ 10 minutes

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Summary

In a different era with a different Commissioner, the NBA players were scared of gambling.

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0:00.0

And I think what we need to do as sports fans or just Americans is probably just accepted.

0:06.8

Now, that doesn't mean it's the free reign.

0:09.5

It's the Wild Wild West.

0:10.7

It is on these leagues to police their players strongly and make it very, very clear that if you are caught in any kind of scandal like this, you're done for life.

0:19.3

We're going to come down hard on you.

0:38.7

But I got news for you. In two more years, they're going to be another scandal. In three more years, there's going to be another scandal. And this is for all of us as individuals. I can just tell you as me, a human being at 2.10 in the afternoon. Am I not going to watch an NBA game tonight? Because I'm concerned about the up and up? Not really. I'm going to watch it. because I'm concerned about the up and up. Not really.

0:43.9

I'm going to watch it. I'm not concerned about the up and up. I understand that this is going to come along with it. Yeah. That with legalized gambling and the access that we now have to it, it is so easy.

0:51.2

And that's the key word you said, Teick. It is easy for a basketball player.

0:54.8

I don't care if they're making millions of dollars to say, oh, jeez, I can make a quick 10 grand on this. Yeah, it's cash. When someone's offering you cash, even if you're making a million plus dollars, it's cash. It's untraceable. It's easy to accomplish. and the question is, what is the NBA going to do about this?

1:13.4

Because they've already told players.

1:16.2

They've already, you know, given you the consequences of gambling or being a part of these things.

1:24.0

And so the year or whatever, is it lifetime if they get a ban? Yeah. If it's one. So the lifetime. Jonte Porter bet on his own game with a similar situation. He's banned for life. The lifetime ban clearly doesn't stop or influence guys from not doing this. What else can you do? I want to answer that. I sent Lugie. Lugie, get the Sam Mitchell clip ready. I want you to hear this. Sam Mitchell played in the league,

1:48.1

coached in the league. He tells a story earlier today

1:52.1

about why he was afraid to gamble, why he was deathly

1:55.8

afraid to gamble. I want you to listen to this clip. I want everyone to listen to this clip

1:59.2

because this clip will answer what you do about it. Because like everything in life, it comes down to leadership.

2:06.7

It is all about leadership. So ladies and gentlemen, courtesy of Sirius XM NBA Radio, former head coach,

2:13.3

Sam Mitchell. I was so afraid. I remember one time one of my buddies asked me just a question

2:17.9

about who was playing in the game. It's so-and-so-going to play. Man, don't ask me that. I thought

2:22.0

my phone was called. Like, David Stern were coming around from team to team, and he would look

2:27.2

us in the eyes as players and say, look, if I ever suspect you are gambling, not only would you

2:33.3

never, that's not a corner of this earth you will play basketball

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