Sam Jones on Jan Marsalek's Secret Life | SpyCast Interview

Hot Money: Agent of Chaos

Pushkin Industries & Financial Times

Technology, Health & Fitness, Sexuality, Business, Society & Culture

4.6 • 619 Ratings

🗓️ 11 August 2025

⏱️ 29 minutes

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Summary

We're sharing a special episode from SpyCast, the official podcast of the International Spy Museum, featuring Hot Money's Sam Jones. SpyCast host Sasha Ingber sits down with Sam to learn how Jan Marsalek came to be one of the most wanted men in the world. Sam speaks to how the Financial Times first uncovered fraud at the fintech company, Wirecard, where Jan was the COO, who Jan was before his involvement with Russian spy networks, and how Sam found himself in the middle of an investigation into Jan's secret life. For more stories of how spies and secret agents reach our everyday lives, find SpyCast wherever you get your podcasts.

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0:00.0	This is an IHeart podcast.
0:04.7	World of Secrets, The Killing Call, a BBC World Service investigation into the murder of
0:10.4	Punjabi singer and rapper Sidhu Musi Allah.
0:13.3	The facts, they aren't out in the open.
0:15.5	Why Sidhu Musayala, you know?
0:17.2	Uncovering a global criminal underworld that reaches far beyond India's borders.
0:22.4	There are so many rumors.
0:23.8	No one wants to talk.
0:25.4	There might be repercussions.
0:27.3	World of Secrets.
0:28.4	They're killing call.
0:29.5	Listen on the BBC app or wherever you get your podcasts.
0:37.2	Welcome to Spycast, the official podcast of the International Spy Museum.
0:43.1	I'm your host, Sasha Inver, and each week I take you into the shadows of espionage, intelligence, and covert operations across the globe.
0:55.2	Today, he's one of the most wanted men in the world.
0:59.7	But before Jan Marcellic fled to Russia, he was the C.O. of payment processing firm
1:05.8	Wirecard.
1:07.1	Officials and investigators say Marcellic used the company to finance Moscow's covert operations and spy networks in Africa and in Europe.
1:18.5	In 2020, nearly $2 billion vanished from Wirecard along with Marcellic.
1:25.2	Reporter Sam Jones has been following the case through the Financial Times podcast Hot Money.
1:32.3	Sam, who was Jan Marcellic before the elaborate schemes for Russia?
1:38.5	What was his life like that maybe drove him to make some of these decisions?
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