There's a lot of goofiness happening here, and somebody needs to take accountability for it.

There are No Girls on the Internet as a production of IHeart Radio and Unbossed Creative.

I'm Bridget Todd, and this is There Are No Girls on the Internet.

You've probably heard of Open AI, the company that makes ChatGPT.

Last week, OpenAI had major drama and a major board shakeup.

Now, there's been no shortage of coverage of what happened.

We'll get into the broad strokes in this episode.

But even before all of this, the truth is that Open AI,

this company that has taken up so much space and conversations

about what kind of future we're going to have

was already very white and very male,

and that's even more true after this week's board shakeup.

So, what does all of this say about gender and identity in tech and beyond?

And what does it mean for the rest of us?

Dr. Misty Heganis, associate professor in the School of Public Affairs and Administration

at University of Kansas, studies how gender plays out in places like tech company boardrooms.

How did you come to be somebody who cares about how women show up in workplaces in the economy and in data?

Well, I am a woman who lives in this society and tries to thrive in this economy. And so,

you know, I guess I'll just say I came by it naturally. You know, I'm a data nerd. I'm an economist

by training. I've always been interested and driven to really try to understand kind of how we can all live our best lives and to figure out what are the barriers and challenges that hold people back.

So last week, Misty and I both watched the OpenAI CEO drama unfold.

There are lots of AI companies and organizations out there,

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