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Hi everyone, I'm joining you from the Hudson Valley in New York State where I have come to

celebrate Thanksgiving because that's on Thursday of this week. Most of America will be

sitting down eating turkey but before they get to that we've been talking Turkey

with some of our guests as we're recording this pre- Thanksgiving episode.

And if it's Thanksgiving week, it also means that we have had the presidential turkey pardoning.

This year, we had two turkeys pardoned named Liberty and Bell, and it was a great opportunity for President Joe Biden who issued the pardoning

to try his hand at some jokes I guess. Now just to get here Liberty and Bell had to beat some tough odds in competition.

They had to work hard to show patience and be willing to travel over a thousand miles.

You could say even this harder than getting a ticket to the Renaissance tour or

or Rip Brittany's tour. She's down in it's kind of warm in Brazil right now.

Now, of course, he doesn't mean Brittany.

He means Taylor Swift, who is doing the South America leg of her amazing eras tour. So I mean I think that shows you the

pitfalls of trying to be culturally relevant when it's a little bit out of your

generation because you know she is now the biggest pop phenomenon since the Beatles.

It would behoove him to get a

name right I think yeah and well there'll be people who take that all quite

seriously and say my goodness more evidence of the thing that we have mentioned before, the D word decline, but there you go.

It was a bit of fun and this edition of AmeriCast is going to continue to be fun with John Mueller who's going to join us, who was chef,

to quite a few presidents, he's going to talk about not only what he cooked,

but also what they were like and things behind the scenes but main business today has got to be

Silicon Valley based because we're going to talk to the New York Times tech journalist Mike

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