Hello, I'm Ian Stirling and I'm with one of McCain's farmers who grow their potatoes hang on these are odd-looking potatoes

That's kale Ian. You do know you need potato to make chips, right?

Yes, but we don't just grow potatoes. We actually rotate different crops to help keep the soil healthy. So we eat McCain chips

I'm helping do some good. Exactly. Yeah, you're supporting the move to regenerative farming

By the way, I do know the difference between kale and potatoes

Of course you do.

McCain let's all chip in

I mean Stirling and today I'm at a McCain potato field being chased by a massive war

It's just a lady bird Ian. Well, it had a real war spanner, Jay. Why are they here? Well, we plot wildflowers to help encourage wildlife

Like birds and insects. So we eat McCain chips. I'm helping do some good. Yeah, exactly. You're supporting the move to regenerative farming

Okay, this time it's definitely a wasp. My life's in danger

Ian, that's a butterfly. McCain, let's all chip in

Welcome to intelligence squared. I'm Connor Boyle

Following the shocking attack on Salmon Rushdie last Friday

Many of the acclaimed authors friends and admirers have joined in praising a singular literary talent and his extraordinary courage

Here at intelligence squared Rushdie has appeared across numerous events and recordings over the years

And we wish him a swift recovery

We wanted to play you one of those recordings today from the intelligence squared archive

The episode you're about to hear was recorded as part of our 2021 series touchstones with Rasia ikbal

Rushdie talks about his love of James Joyce Bob Dylan and the amulet his father gave him as a young boy. Here's Rasia with more

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Now we all have touchstones points of reference that we return to and that hold our interests throughout our lives

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