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Afghanistan After The Withdrawal: What Lessons Have We Learned?

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🗓️ 17 August 2022

⏱️ 64 minutes

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Summary

One year ago the United States decided to withdraw from Afghanistan after two decades in the country. The Taliban, a militant Islamist group that ran most of Afghanistan in the late 1990s, swept to power without much resistance from the Afghan army and captured Kabul on August 15 2021. The debacle left Western governments humiliated and ordinary Afghans afraid. What responsibility do countries like Britain and the United States have for the current crisis? To discuss these issues our host the journalist and broadcaster Manveen Rana is joined by Shabnam Nasimi, Policy Advisor to the U.K Home Office, BBC Middle East editor Jeremy Bowen, and Paul Mason, the journalist, writer and film-maker. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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1:38.1

Welcome to Intelligent Squared. I'm Connor Boyle. For today's show, we're marking one

1:49.6

year since Western forces chaotic withdrawal from Afghanistan, what will the future hold

1:55.0

under the rule of the Taliban? Here's our host, the journalist and broadcaster, Manvin

2:03.0

Rana. In August 2021, the United States and NATO forces withdrew from Afghanistan after

2:12.1

two decades in the country. The Taliban, a militant Islamist group that ran Afghanistan

2:17.5

in the late 1990s, swept back to power without much resistance and captured Kabul on August

2:24.4

15th, 2021. The withdrawal was widely seen as a humiliation in the West and a betrayal

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