Sally Jenkins Thinks Losing Is Wonderful

Fail Better with David Duchovny

Grace Cohen-Chen

Society & Culture

4.6 • 534 Ratings

🗓️ 23 July 2024

⏱️ 62 minutes

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“Who can explain the athletic heart?” These are the words Sally Jenkins’ father would ask, driving her to follow in his footsteps and become a groundbreaking sportswriter. From eating a cheeseburger alongside golf legends as a child, to writing memoirs of the world’s top athletes and coaches, Sally has had a unique look into the lives and minds (and hearts) of some of society’s most exceptional individuals. She shares the lessons she’s learned from athletes ranging from Lance Armstrong to Billie Jean King, how they can apply to all of us, and why losing might be the best thing that can happen to you. Follow me on Instagram at @davidduchovny. Stay up to date with Lemonada on Twitter, Facebook and Instagram at @LemonadaMedia. Joining Lemonada Premium is a great way to support our show and get bonus content. Subscribe today at bit.ly/lemonadapremium. And if you want to continue the conversation with other listeners, join the My Lemonada community at https://lemonadamedia.com/mylemonada/ For a list of current sponsors and discount codes for this and every other Lemonada show, go to lemonadamedia.com/sponsors. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	It's morning in New York.
0:02.8	Oh, God.
0:06.2	Hey, everybody.
0:07.3	I'm Mandy Patinkin.
0:08.7	And I'm Catherine Grady.
0:09.8	And we have a new podcast.
0:11.7	It's called Don't Listen to Us.
0:14.1	Many of you've asked for our advice.
0:16.1	Tell me, what is wrong with you people?
0:19.2	Don't listen to us.
0:20.3	Our Take It or Leave a Advice show Wednesday out now, a Lemonada Media Original.
0:30.0	Speaking with Sally Jenkins, and famously, she wrote two books with Lance Armstrong, whoamously after those books was found to have been
0:42.6	taking performance-enhancing drugs and shamed and, you know, we all know the story there.
0:48.8	And there was also, you know, obviously a personal relationship there between writer and subject.
0:54.9	And we talk about all that.
0:57.6	But it got me thinking about performance enhancing.
1:01.6	And I started to think about performance enhancing drugs in all professions.
1:06.6	Most of us, I'd say 98% of us are taking some kind of performance-enhancing drug or food or supplement
1:16.0	or something to help us get through our days and our days get through our nights. So are we going to
1:21.6	have to put asterisks across everything? You know, are we going to have to say this novel was written with the help of
1:28.4	caffeine and therefore should not be, should not get the reviews it should get? I started thinking
1:33.7	about all the actors who have always acted a little buzzed. Should their awards be disallowed because
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