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Scouting for Growth

Sally Gimon: How Do The Mega-Rich Save BIG On Taxes

Scouting for Growth

Sabine VanderLinden

Business:entrepreneurship, Business, Entrepreneurship, Technology

4.8 • 35 Ratings

🗓️ 22 February 2024

⏱️ 43 minutes

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Summary

What if the biggest tax advantage in America wasn’t a loophole… but a legacy strategy hiding in plain sight? In this episode of Scouting for Growth, Sabine VanderLinden sits down with Sally Gimon—a force of nature in real estate investing and financial education—who learned the hard way that making money is one thing, keeping it is another. After being hit with a $79,000 tax bill from her real estate activities, Sally did what most people never do: she went looking for answers beyond the obvious. What she uncovered sent her straight into the inner mechanics of how generational wealth is actually protected in the U.S.—legally. Enter the Spendthrift Trust. This is not a fringe tactic. Spendthrift Trusts have been embedded in the U.S. tax code for over 100 years, tested at the Supreme Court, and quietly used by some of the most powerful families in history—including the Rockefellers, DuPonts, Carnegies, and even estates like Robin Williams. Sally breaks down—plainly and practically—how these trusts work, why almost no one talks about them, and why they’re not just for the ultra-wealthy anymore. Here’s the uncomfortable truth: This knowledge exists. It’s legal. And it’s rarely shared outside elite circles. In this conversation, Sally explains how U.S. business owners can: Legally reduce federal income taxes by up to 90%, year after year Protect assets across generations while maintaining control and flexibility Reinvest tax savings into real estate, lending, family support, or philanthropy Structure income in a way that compounds opportunity rather than triggering penalties She demystifies the mechanics of beneficial Spendthrift Trusts, including: How trusteeship works (and why it’s more flexible than most assume) Why beneficiaries don’t “own” assets in the traditional sense—and why that matters How average real estate investors can recover the cost of a trust in one or two deals Why someone earning ~$80K+ can see five-figure annual tax savings, depending on state Perhaps most striking is Sally’s mission-driven perspective. With only 4% of attorneys specialising in trusts—and most serving ultra-high-net-worth clients—this is a system that has been structurally inaccessible. Sally’s work is about democratising financial literacy, not gaming the system. “If the Rockefellers can do it,” she says, “why shouldn’t everyday business owners?” This episode is eye-opening, practical, and deeply empowering—especially for founders, operators, and investors who are building real wealth but feel trapped by tax inefficiency. 🎧 If you’ve ever wondered why working harder doesn’t always translate into keeping more—this conversation will change how you think about money, taxes, and legacy. Because growth isn’t just about revenue. It’s about structure, strategy, and knowing the rules of the game you’re already playing.

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0:00.0

The Hi everyone welcome to this episode of scouting for growth. I am thrilled

0:21.1

to welcome to today Sally Gaiman.

0:23.0

Sally is an absolute superstar in the world of real estate investing

0:28.0

and financial education.

0:30.0

But the podcast is not going to be for real estate people.

0:34.1

It's actually very important episode for tech founders, investors,

0:39.4

business owners aiming to maximize revenue and reduce their tax liabilities.

0:47.0

Indeed, after getting hit with a $79,000 tax bill from her wholesale real estate activity, Sally uncovered an incredible secret

0:56.5

used by the mega rich to save big on taxes.

1:01.2

What she found led her down the rabbit hole into the realm or span thrift trusts.

1:06.0

These specialized trusts have been tucked away in the tax code for over 100 years and used by families like the Rockefeller to shield assets and

1:16.4

minimize tax liability legally.

1:20.9

Yet they have remained largely unknown to everyday investors and business owners.

1:26.0

That is where Sais comes in.

1:28.5

She helps demystify complex concepts like Spenceforth Trust trusts and make these tax savings vehicles accessible to more American people.

1:40.0

Salina teaches people nationwide who are master-mine how to leverage trust to save up to 90% on federal taxes for investors that means no more capital gains interest income

1:55.6

dividend taxes or rental income taxes and for business owners it translates

2:02.3

to slashing taxes by 70% or more each year.

2:07.0

Sally has an incredible story of finding this trust herself, reading the law and now she's able to help owners, founders,

2:17.1

investors to earn money and pay taxes in the right way. She also now appears on the day Sri

2:23.4

Dickie those willing to listen. I can't wait to learn more about how the

2:27.6

Spentrift Trust works, why most CPSAs don't even know about them, even trust CPS actually.

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