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There's something so romantic about Winter and I don't know whether that's just because I'm a bit of a homebody and I love a 5.

But I think it's just the holiday period. It's just for me, it's the most romantic period.

And I think anyone who's listened to my records will know that I'm quite a big fan of romance.

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I've been Maroien and today's guest have got so much porridge. I've had you brother. Good journal. Good to see you.

Nice to be out. Very known in underworld. Very popular name. Just out of prison. Spent nearly 30 years of it inside. Very well connected.

But you're now here today to tell your two's an amazing thing.

I believe I'm connected to friends. You're looking well. Thank you.

So I always go back to the start of my guests. Where did you grew up and how it all began? Well, it all began in the 50s. When my mother was a young Jewish girl, big breasts standing out of bus stop.

She met my father who was a big Irish man. Super heavyweight. And then the clits. I couldn't tell you what year it was but I know it was in the 50s.

Then the next thing that happened was by the time my mother was 25, she had seven children. Six lads, one girl, the girl's the oldest. Then between and both things never clits. I don't know why.

But this bell for one with my mother three went with my father. I went with my father. Become Christian, the Catholic. Pass me all the community in the not so. Then the other four become Jewish.

So we even know your movies to wish make you Jewish. I become a Catholic. Now my father to bring up me Michael and the sister.

When my dad in nem days, I don't think you could get social. Nobody had any money. So my dad had to go to work. Then come on from work and he had to go working again as a personal bodyguard.

Gambling was illegal. So we did that as a job when he went out at night time. Me and brother Michael is one year older man. He was about eight. I was seven. And we started burglary. We knew it was in aginetsis. They'll ask me why.

But we started burglary in places, shops, nobody had any money. We were just to get what we ever wanted. Suffice weeks, cakes, whatever. We started burglary shops. Then we started to go for the money.

Then the next thing that happened was we kept getting caught hanging about Manchester at three o'clock in the morning, two o'clock in the morning, seven years, eight years of age. The police were posing, bring us home.

Even at that age, we was getting good items by them. When you got home, you got another good item. So that carried on. Then before the age of nine, the police could use uncontrollable and my dad could keep us in the house when he went back to work. I was putting care.

Now, the care homes was how can it describe it military one? It was like, you know, somebody becoming a gradier. So we'll have to be talk. How to be a gradier. So we named those when I said, military one eight years of age. I had a pair of books, short pants, a jumper with number 80 on the back.

And using house units, one arms distance, stand to attention, standard ease. You would mark through every corridor, stop, stand to attention again. You're selecting dormitories. Then you was more or less, these being too well walls.

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