This is Paul Hawksman.

And Annie Jacobs.

And this is the H&J Daily with some of the best bits of this afternoon show.

Former Premier League referee Graham Scott joined us.

We had a very contentious handball, Brian and Bumo.

And he weighed in on that, and other matters besides.

Mark Donaldson from ESPN is a hearts fan

and took Martin O'Neill to task over some comments he made about that pitch invasion

and looks at the future on a lighter note

for his club.

Nick Littlehouse is a sleep coach

and told us about the marginal gains

of a good night's kit for the England team

as they were all over the cover of the sun today.

And Tom Rennie, West Ham fan, he is

without hope. It sounds. And he told us why he's not a massive fan of Nuno. We had a bit of a chat

as well here at all this.

Good afternoon, everyone. Good afternoon, Andy. Yes, good afternoon. How was your Cup final experience? Very enjoyable. It was very enjoyable to be with my son and my grandson. We had great seats. It was really fun. You were quite close to the front. Did you get on the telly? No, it wasn't on the telly. But it was enjoyable, but disappointing. But you've got to give congratulations to... Here we go. To Darren England. Yes. It was City's Man of the Match. Yeah, yeah. Did he get the award? Well, I think so. Apparently it's only alone. They hope to make the deal permanent in the summer. Oh, that's tremendous, really, really fantastic bit of refereeing by him. and you felt hard done by, I'm guessing. Oh, for goodness sake.

The Hato one is a Stonewall penalty. Which runs out the one but right at the end. Yeah, yeah. He only pushed him and tripped him. Apart from that, I couldn't believe Darren can on the BBC game. Oh, no, it's not a penalty. Of course it's a penalty. It's ridiculous. I don't know what these people are looking at. I know I'm biased, but for goodness sake. Well, at least you've admitted that. But what you get, I mean, you get the one in the first half was a 50-50, the one with Yao Pedro. He did take him out midriff as he's shooting. Sometimes it's given some reason. but exactly the same tackle late in the game. Casado gets booked for.

I mean, tell me, he was exactly the same thing. It's unbelievable, the inconsistency. And, you know, just the whole thing, you just end up feeling so disappointed. We just need better officiating. There's no question about it. Yeah. We're going to chat with Graham Scott. One of the things that seems to happen now is that referees are reluctant to make a call. And it's a vicious circle. So they think they're relying on the VAR, but the VAR have this clear and obvious. And they also have reaching the threshold. And not wanting to saw off their mates.

Don't forget that unwritten one.

Well, I did think yesterday in the Mbuemo call, had Michael Oliver been the fourth official,

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