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Today on the show is Sal de Stefano. He is a trainer has been a trainer for a couple of decades.

He knows so much about really psychology, human nature, the body.

He has a show that I've been listening to forever, Mind Pump TV, so it's him and a few guys that sort of hash it out

about various different topics that are going on and then always getting into some elements of fitness

and then they have callers on where they ask their specific

questions pertaining to them which is always so interesting. So I've just been learning so

much from them. It's actually the strength program that I'm that I'm doing right now is through Mind Pump and it's a

program called Maps. Go to their website and pick one of I don't know there must be 20 different programs. I'm always trying to find the truth out like what what Like what is it that I need to be doing

that could be sort of better here or there.

And I tell you what, I've learned so much about gaining muscle,

strength training, you know, what kind of workout programs are good for you, which one's bad, and what kind of signal of sending the body essentially and what mechanism is activated in the body that leads to essentially feeling better, being healthier, leaning out, being stronger, and having a better

hormonal profile. Really powerful stuff. I hope you enjoy the episode. Please let me know what you think in the comments.

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