say, why should people listen to this episode of PodFriends featuring you?

I think you should listen to this episode because you want to meet the internet's favorite

Twitter villain, but see the other side of her, see about her journey, how she, why she is

the way she is, learn how to manifest, and really just find a conversation between two

dope individuals and get to know me better. Beautiful. So beautiful. Thank you.

I don't know. Thank you. Hot friends, pot friends, it's time to take a look behind the mic, it's your hot friends, pot friends, you're gonna find out what they're really like we're all

Pod friends, pod friends.

No interviews, just having conversations.

So sit back and prepare for captivation. Hello everyone and welcome to PodFriends. My name is Matt Scott. That

song was PodFriends by Will from America and you could skip ahead about three minutes to get to the start

of the interview with Say. And as we start out, I just want to say, I love Say.

I had a great conversation with Say. And the reason why I am so excited for you to hear this

interview in this conversation is that so often with the shows that we watch, Survivor, which Say was on as the perfect example,

we get such a limited slice of who people are.

There are hours and hours and hours and hours

that are filmed from every single camera, every single day,

and the episodes are boiled down into 90 minutes, including ads.

And so that means that we don't get to see people's stories. We don't get to see them fully.

We don't get to see all of their moments. We get a slice of them. We get them as an archetype and as a character and not the full picture of them. And that's one

reason I love pod friends in general is that it really is exposure to get to know people on this

deeper, more full level, an excuse to get to know them on a deeper, more full level, but also to

appreciate that like sometimes the people that we don't gravitate to at the beginning, sometimes

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