Sage CEO on the future of work & Stanford’s big study on AI and jobs
The Times Tech Podcast
Will Morley
4.8 • 676 Ratings
🗓️ 4 September 2025
⏱️ 47 minutes
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Summary
Danny and Katie tackle Google's antitrust win, TikTok job cuts and a new Stanford research on how AI is reshaping entry-level roles. Plus, Katie speaks to Steve Hare, CEO of Sage, the FTSE 100 accounting software company, to discuss AI’s impact on hiring, the limits of “copilot” tools, and why Britain needs more homegrown tech champions so he can have 'some friends'.
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