Sadie Frost and Frances Ruffelle on 40 years of friendship - and why it's more important than love

The Shift with Sam Baker

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Personal Journals, Health & Fitness, Society & Culture

4.8 • 525 Ratings

🗓️ 16 March 2021

⏱️ 41 minutes

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My guests this week have both lived fascinating lives. Both have experienced ups and downs. Both are now 55 and have found themselves in this place in life that has brought them a surprising new power. Actress, producer, businesswoman and compulsive learner Sadie Frost and award winning actress and singer/songwriter Frances Ruffelle first met at school in 1976 (when they were the scruffy, noisy, naughty ones at the back!) and have been firm friends ever since. They are also both yoga addicts, so it made perfect sense for them to launch their new business, Yin & Tonic, that combines short soothing routines with mindful music. I zoomed in with the life long besties to talk about how their 45 year friendship is more important than any marriage, being in the middle of the “muddy soup” of menopause (insomnia!) and why Sadie’s looking forward to finally “leaving home” at 55. And yoga, of course. I also got raging house envy. Find Yin & Tonic's yoga sessions on youtube. You can buy all the books mentioned in this podcast at Bookshop.org, including the book that accompanies this podcast, The Shift: how I lost and found myself after 40 - and you can too by Sam Baker. The Shift (on life after 40) with Sam Baker is created and hosted by Sam Baker and edited by Emily Sandford. I'd love to hear what you think - please rate and review, or let me know on twitter @sambaker or instagram @theothersambaker. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	Jamie Lang and Sophie Haboo have arrived on Disney Plus.
0:04.5	We're having a baby.
0:05.5	We're having a baby.
0:07.2	I've always wanted to be mom.
0:09.4	And we're bringing you on our journey through everything.
0:12.4	I have no idea what we're doing.
0:13.6	Thank you. I have more of an idea.
0:15.6	I think of it like a Tamagocchi.
0:17.8	At the end of all of this...
0:20.0	We're going to have a little baby. Raising Chelsea, a Hulu
0:23.7	original series streaming exclusively on Disney Plus. 18 plus subscription required T's and T supply.
0:35.1	Hello and welcome to The Shift, the podcast that aims to tell the no-holds-barred truth about being a woman post-40, created and hosted by me, journalist and author Sam Baker.
0:44.9	My guests this week have both lived fascinating lives. Both are now 55 and have found themselves in this place in life that has brought them a surprising new power.
0:54.2	Actress, producer, businesswoman and compulsive learner, Sadie Frost,
0:59.1	an award-winning actress and singer-songwriter Francis Ruffel, first met at school in
1:03.9	1976 and have been firm friends ever since.
1:08.4	I mean, I think I would be happy to marry Sadie, basically.
1:14.4	We are like an old marriage.
1:15.9	That's not going to work for us, I suppose, because we love each other but not in that way.
1:21.0	I zoomed in with the lifelong besties to talk about how their 45-year friendship is more
1:26.2	important than any marriage,
1:28.1	being in the middle of the muddy soup of menopause,
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