Thanks to you at home for joining us this hour. It's really good to have you here with us tonight.

So this time last week, if you've been watching the show on Monday nights when I'm here,

you might have seen we had E. Jean Carroll here live on the show,

along with her attorney, Roberta Kaplan. E. Jean Carroll and Robbie Kaplan were here live on the

show last week, and the immediate wake of that remarkable court ruling, in which a jury held

unanimously that former president Donald Trump had sexually abused E. Jean Carroll,

and that when he denied that and dispiraged her and called her a liar, he was the one who was lying.

And he was defaming Ms. Carroll, and he was going to have to pay for it. In that case,

that jury ordered Donald Trump to pay E. Jean Carroll $5 million in damages, both for what he did

and for what he said about it. But if you watched the show last week and you saw that interview

that I did with E. Jean Carroll and with her attorney, you might remember that in addition to

sort of reflecting on the fact that they had won that case, one of the things they were newly

contending with in the wake of that jury verdict was that even though Trump had just been ordered

to pay out millions of dollars because of his attacks on E. Jean Carroll, because of his lies

about her, even though he had just been ordered to pay millions of dollars literally within a day

of that jury verdict, and being ordered to pay all that money, he was out there saying all the same

things again. You did force accountability. And then he did it again, the defamation, the calling

your liar, the exact same things the jury held him liable for the day before he did again the next day

on National Television. Is that just the way it has to be? Do you think that could actually

could be actionable if you were to file another suit? Would it work the same way? So it's definitely

actionable. He's not going to get away with it another time. It's unprecedented for a person to

have been held liable in defamation to keep doing the defamation. So there are a lot of cases that

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