Welcome to the dispatch podcast. I'm your host Sarah Isger joined by Jonah Goldberg, Kevin

Williamson and the podcast debut of David Drucker who has joined the dispatch. And we're

just so thrilled to have him on our political team. David, welcome. We have plenty to talk

about today. We will start with Memphis, but we will also talk about happenings on the

Hill some 2024 news. Who knows who knows where we'll get to.

Let's dive right in. I really just want to call you new David for the rest of the podcast,

we're actually going to start with Jonah. Jonah, you wrote about the protests that are

happening. Memphis, race related to police. I thought it was a great column, even though

I didn't agree with all of it. And I'm wondering if you could sum up where you think the

protesters are wrong, I guess?

Sure, it depends on which protesters we're talking about. I have no objection with people

who are horrified by what happened to Tyrenegles. Because what happened to Tyrenegles is horrifying.

Even though I suspect that this is all going to become more complicated down the road

when these things go to trial, but that's a conversation we can get to for another time.

My objection with the sort of the way this stuff is framed is there are an enormous number

of people who should know better, who just simply say policing as racist. No qualifiers,

no adjectives, no adverbs, just sort of policing, qual policing, the institution of policing

is racist. And there are even people, these are prominent people, people like Tony E. Z.

Hecoats, James Clyburn, who is the number three guy in the House Democrats, said this

a while back. There's this whole theory, this sort of almost urban, it's not quite an

urban myth, but there's this theory that slaving is that that that policing in America is descended

directly and immutably from the practice of slave patrolling, from fugitive slave patrolling.

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