From KCRW in Santa Monica, this is The Treatment.

Welcome to The Treatment. I'm Elvis Mitchell. You can also hear the show at KCRW.com.

I guess in 1992, Saassasiovarez,

you were so taken with the speed metal band Anvil

that he decided to become a Rody.

He was known as T-Bag.

And over 20 years later,

he thought there was a film in their life.

And when I saw the movie Anvil,

the story of Anvil, which he directed,

and it's a terrific film, by the way,

John Lennon's song Working Class Hero came to

mind for me. Did it for you as well, InSaja? Absolutely, yeah. I mean, I think that was the

appeal of these guys. It was actually 1982, I think it was, that I first met them. And I, I,

I went on the road with them when I was 16. And, you know, they were always just these incredible guys. They were like atypical of the rock stars that you would meet at places like the Marquis in London,

because they were just completely cool.

You could talk to them.

And when I hooked up with them 20 years later, you know, Lips was a catering driver for Choice Children's Catering in Scarborough, Ontario.

And Rob was doing porch renovation.

And they were still keeping this dream going and I just thought, you know, it was very much like a working class hero story. It was a blue collar story.

We should say you're talking about Lips Kuta and Rob Reiner who were the, basically the centerpiece

of the band. And the story is as much as anything about friendship and about the beating of friendship

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