Summary
Greg Jenner is joined by historian Prof Katrina Phillips and comedian Alex Edelman in the 19th century to meet an icon of American history, Sacagawea. Hired to lead Jefferson’s Corps of Discovery through the newly acquired Louisiana territories at just 16 years old, Sacagawea was responsible for the lives of the corps and her "man-baby" husband as well as her actual baby who she gave birth to mid-expedition. Her heroics along the course of the journey are well documented but why is there no record of any first-hand account from the woman herself?
Produced by Cornelius Mendez Script by Greg Jenner and Emma Nagouse Research by Charlotte Potter
A production by The Athletic for BBC Radio 4.
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| 0:00.0 | Hello and welcome to your Dead To Me, a Radio 4 History Podcast for everyone, for people |
| 0:06.1 | who don't like history, do like history or people who forgot to learn in the at school. |
| 0:10.1 | My name is Greg Jenner, I am a public historian author and broadcaster and I'm the chief nerd |
| 0:14.7 | on the BBC comedy show Horrible Histories. |
| 0:16.6 | You may have heard my other podcast, Home School History, but that one's mostly for the |
| 0:20.3 | kids. |
| 0:21.3 | On this podcast, we explore the wilds of the past and search for comedy gold. |
| 0:25.6 | And if you've listened to our last two episodes on the Harlem Renaissance and becoming |
| 0:28.9 | America, you'll know that we're wrapping up Series 3 or Season 3 of your American with |
| 0:33.8 | five episodes of American history. |
| 0:36.9 | And today we are grabbing our camping supplies as we journey back over 200 years to meet |
| 0:42.0 | Sakajewiya, one of the most fascinating women in American history. |
| 0:46.4 | And to accompany me on this fact finding mission are two very special guests. |
| 0:50.7 | In History Corner, she's assistant professor of Native History at McAllister College in |
| 0:54.5 | Minnesota and is the author of staging Indigeneity, salvage tourism and the performance of Native |
| 1:00.0 | American history. |
| 1:01.0 | It's Dr. Katrina Phillips, but we're friends now, so we're calling you Katie. |
| 1:04.2 | Hi Katie, thanks for joining us. |
| 1:05.8 | Thanks for having me, I'm excited to be here. |
| 1:07.7 | And in Comedy Corner, he's an Ed and Refriger award-winning comedian. |
| 1:10.3 | You may have seen him on Live at the Apollo or on Conan O'Brien show. |
| 1:13.7 | You may have seen him live at the BBC or on Rose Battle UK. |
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