Thank you for listening to the Allender Center podcast.

I'm Dr. Dan Allender.

And I'm Rachel Clinton Chen.

We're fiercely committed to providing hope and healing to a fragmented world.

And restoration for the heart.

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Let's get this conversation started.

Rachel, we're tackling a topic that just provokes a lot of issues for people, at least when I have talked about it with others.

And we're going to talk about Sabbath. but Sabbath in the context of a seditious, chaotic, wild, heartbreaking world, which Sabbath is more needed than ever before, and yet probably is less

engaged than my suspicion is almost at any other time.

So before we do that, though, do you know, do you remember this is how we met?

I do remember how we met.

I was a second year M.Div student at Marcell graduate school at the time, Seattle

School, and a job opportunity came up to be a research assistant as you were working on

your Sabbath book. And I thought, that sounds really fun to get paid to research Sabbath.

Though at the time, like probably many people, my experience or understanding of a word like Sabbath

felt like, well, that is a very, a very real and sacred religious practice for Jewish people.

So that, that understanding of Sabbath and then maybe like, at least in my upbringing, Sabbath was like

Sundays, though we went to church two times in the morning and in the evening and usually

it was like you worked on homework in the afternoon or maybe some chores you hadn't been able to

get done or maybe like you got to play a little bit. So I had a very minimal understanding of Sabbath when I first met you, we started working on this.

Yeah, well, me too.

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