Hello, and welcome to the Fighter Pilot podcast. I am your host, Vincent Ayelo.

Back on Episode 68, my guest shared great information on the JAS-39 Grippin, the Swedish

built on-year-old fighter strike and reconnaissance aircraft. But Duke's awareness on the E&F

models was limited because he had not flown them. So to help fill in the gaps as well as

update us on what's new with the latest Grippin models in the two years since that episode

aired, today we welcome to the show UC Palmatosja of Sab AB. Thanks for joining us, Miyagi.

Hey, JALO. Thank you very much for those welcoming words and the opportunity to work with you on

the pod. So looking forward to doing my very best to update you on all the new Grippin

stuff. What do you need to know? For sure. And before we do dive into it, let's find out a little

bit about you. I'm guessing you have some military flying experience before joining Sab?

Yeah, sure. I've spent almost 25 years in the Swedish Air Force before joining. So I just give you

a brief background on where I come from actually, etc. Sure. For a Finnish guy where I was actually

born in Finland in the mid-70s and then the first XS over there and then moved with my family

to Sweden and that's kind of the whole thing. First flying sparks were really lit by Mom's new

husband who was a very keen military aviation enthusiast and fans. So I think it's all where

it really started. So after the mandatory military service, which we have in Sweden, was a year

and a half on the ranges up in the north. Looking at those kind of cool jets up there in the sky

and thinking what, why cool, that's really where I want to be. So the very next day after the service

ended, I traveled down to Stockholm to do their few days of tests and assessment and yeah,

it looked lucky enough to hang in there until the end. So I just, interesting fact here, or just

remember my mom's husband's words, somebody needs to fly those tests so why should not be you.

So that's kind of the whole philosophy I had with it. So let's go for it. Flying wise, start off

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