Hello, friends. Welcome back to another episode of Theology in the Raw. My guest today is Dr. Martin

Koldorf. Dr. Koldorf was born in Sweden. He got his PhD at Cornell University. He's currently

a professor of medicine at Harvard Medical School and a biostatistician at the Brigham and Women's

Hospital. He serves on the scientific advisory committees to the Food and Drug Administration and

the Centers for Disease Control, the CDC. He specializes in development of, well, I don't know,

misquote him, but he's an expert in vaccines. Basically, the last two decades has been doing

research and knows a lot about vaccines and has obviously tons of credentials. And so I heard Dr.

Koldorf speak at the Q Ideas, not Q, as in a non, but the Q Ideas conference last spring. And I

was just really impressed with how knowledgeable he was and how he approached obviously very controversial

topics. And then I more recently was hearing some stuff about this so-called, well, not so-called,

it's called the Great Barrington Declaration, which it's kind of a group of scientists that have

proposed a different, well, somewhat different approach to addressing the pandemic. It's an

approach that would reflect more kind of how Sweden approached it, elevating hermene,

herd immunity, and targeting at-risk groups, but not there very much against just kind of

comprehensive lockdown measures for various reasons, which we talk about. So very, you know,

controversial. And I'm just a type of guy that if there's somebody is saying something about

somebody somewhere, I want to go to that somebody and say, hey, just tell me what do you believe?

What are you guys talking about just so I get it from the proverbial horses mouth? And so that's

what this is. He, I'm not a scientist, and most of you aren't either. He is. And so I, it was

really fascinating talking to Dr. Koldorf. And especially some of the stuff I heard about him that

isn't at all reflect what he believes. And so that was cleared up on this podcast. So as with

anything, you guys got to do your own fact checking, you got to do your own research and listen to

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