Hello, friends. Welcome back to another episode of Theology in the Raw. I have on the show today,

a special guest, Dr. Brian Laritz, who is a pastor, author, speaker. He's the president

and founder of the Kainos Movement, a teaching pastor at the Summit Church

over out there in North Carolina. And the author of several books, including his latest release,

The Dad Difference, and several other books he's written, have to do with ethnic reconciliation

in the church, multi-ethnic churches. And that's what we talk about in this podcast.

He is a, as you'll see, I mean, just as you'll notice, five seconds into the conversation,

Brian just oozes with wisdom and humility and grace and just biblical thoughtfulness,

especially when it comes to the race conversation. And I very much enjoyed this conversation.

I think it is something that, well, I think it's something every Christian should listen to. So

if you, if you feel the same, do spread this podcast around to the far reaches of your social media

corners. All right, without further ado, let's get to know the one and only Dr. Brian Laritz.

All right, I'm here with Brian Laritz. I mean, most of you are going to be familiar with Brian's name,

written a ton of books, but a pastor been a, I mean, just a just a leader in the country on so many

levels. But specifically, Brian, I want to have you on because you just have navigated the race

conversation so incredibly well and with like just grace and sensitivity and wisdom. And in a way

that, I mean, if, if I can just be blunt, like I, in a way that I think can get through to,

for lack of better terms, you know, the evangelical church, primarily a white dominated evangelical church,

like I just think you, you swim in those waters, you know, you know, you know, the culture. And so

anyway, we're going to jump into that conversation. But thanks so much for being on the show. Can

you give us maybe just a quick overview of who you are for somebody who doesn't, doesn't know the

name Brian Laritz, the three or four out there that might not know who you are. Yeah, Brian Laritz,

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