From NBI Studios, this is Truth Injustice, a crowdsourced investigation in real time.

I'm Bob Ruff.

Hello everybody and welcome back to Truth Injustice. This is your Friday Follow-Up episode

for season 9 episode 2. In this week's case of, we covered the case of Ivan Cantu. Ivan

is in the state of Texas. He's on death row. He was convicted in 2001 for the murder of his first

cousin and his cousin's girlfriend. There's many people out there that believe that Ivan was wrongfully

convicted. He's exhausted as appeals. And if new evidence is not discovered or presented,

allowed to be presented to their courts, Ivan will at any time be executed. We had on the podcast

Matt Duff from The Cousins by Blood Podcast and Liz Rose who's also blogging about the case.

And they gave us a lot of information. We're going to talk about a little bit more. They got a

bunch of questions from you and I got Zach and Mike in the studio with me to help us answer them.

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Okay, our first question comes from Michelle. This whole story was very confusing.

I'm not sure what happened according to whom because the narrative was all jumbled.

Can we get a brief quote prosecutor says and defense says run down?

Well, let me just let me just fill you guys in on kind of scheduling for us. You should notice a

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