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S9 Ep 16: The Phony Slate

Breakdown

The Atlanta Journal-Constitution

Politics, News, True Crime

4.62.7K Ratings

🗓️ 25 October 2022

⏱️ 48 minutes

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Summary

When 16 Georgia Republicans met at the state Capitol on Dec. 14, 2020, they cast Electoral College votes for Donald Trump, who had not won the state’s presidential election. The 16th episode of The Atlanta Journal-Constitution’s Breakdown podcast – “The Trump Grand Jury” — revisits what happened that day and the consequences going forward. The false electors cast their votes the same day 16 Democrats, the official Electoral College electors, publicly cast votes for the man who’d been certified as the victor: President Joe Biden. Fulton County prosecutors heading the special purpose grand jury investigation of former president Trump and his allies have notified the 16 fake electors that they are targets of the probe. This means they could be criminally charged for what they did. In the episode “The Fake Electors,” Breakdown hears from three reporters — the AJC’s Greg Bluestein, Channel 2 Action News’ Richard Elliot and independent journalist George Chidi — who stumbled across the GOP meeting where the GOP “electors” cast votes that were later sent to Congress and the National Archives. The podcast also interviews legal experts who are closely following the case and who give their takes on what occurred. Among those members of the phony slate of Republican electors trying to overturn Biden’s victory was state Sen. Burt Jones, the GOP nominee for lieutenant governor. This summer, Superior Court Judge Robert McBurney handed Jones a victory by disqualifying the Fulton DA’s office from further investigating him because District Attorney Fani Willis hosted a fundraiser for Jones’ opponent, Democrat Charlie Bailey. But Jones is not in the clear yet. The Prosecuting Attorneys Council of Georgia now has jurisdiction and could appoint a special prosecutor to investigate Jones. This means Jones, who is leading in the polls in the race for lieutenant governor, could face a possible indictment. You can download the Breakdown podcast from Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Google Podcasts, Stitcher or your favorite podcasting platform. You can also stream it above. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

It's worth knowing which really going on.

0:04.0

This is the Atlanta Journal Constitution.

0:08.0

Previously on Breakdown.

0:14.0

Georgia, they said the Secretary of State took the law in his own hands.

0:17.0

He changed the election laws unlawfully.

0:20.0

A federal judge said, no, I accept the federal judge even though I don't agree with it.

0:25.0

Broad, they said there are 66,000 people in Georgia under 18 voted.

0:31.0

How many people believe that?

0:33.0

I asked, give me 10 and I had one.

0:37.0

I think that number one, President Trump won on the third of November.

0:42.0

The things that he needs to do right now is he needs to appoint a special counsel immediately.

0:47.0

He needs to seize all of these dominion and these other voting machines that we have across the country.

0:53.0

He needs to go ahead and prioritize by state and probably by county,

0:58.0

Fulton County, Maricopa County as an example.

1:01.0

I said, good job.

1:02.0

Now I'm going to give you the best free legal advice you're ever getting in your life.

1:06.0

Get a great F in criminal offense lawyer.

1:09.0

You're going to need it.

1:11.0

And then I hung up on him.

1:13.0

The 16 fake GOP electors have been told where to meet under the gold dome.

1:18.0

Georgia State Capitol on December 14, 2020.

1:22.0

They were also told not to tell anyone why they were there or what they were doing.

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