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S9, Ep. 0: Breakdown Season 9 - Coming June 20th

Breakdown

The Atlanta Journal-Constitution

Politics, News, True Crime

4.62.7K Ratings

🗓️ 29 April 2022

⏱️ 7 minutes

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Summary

The phone call from the White House came in at about 3 p.m. on Jan. 2, 2021. Then President Donald Trump, his chief of staff and his lawyers were on the line talking to Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger and members of his staff. During the recorded phone call, Trump asked Raffensperger to “find 11,780 votes,” which would give him one more vote than he needed to flip the outcome of Georgia’s presidential election. On Monday, a special purpose grand jury will convene in Fulton County to investigate what transpired during this phone call and others the former president made to officials in Georgia in the weeks following the 2020 election. The extraordinary proceeding will be the focus of The Atlanta Journal-Constitution’s award-winning podcast “Breakdown”. Episodes of the podcast’s ninth season — The Trump Grand Jury — will be released in the coming weeks. It will be hosted by Bill Rankin, the AJC’s legal affairs reporter, and Tamar Hallerman, a senior reporter who covered the Trump administration when she was the AJC’s Washington correspondent. To make sure you never miss an episode, subscribe to “Breakdown” anywhere you get your podcasts, including Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Google Podcasts and Sitcher For more information on this case and the other eight series of the podcast, go to ajcbreakdown.com. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

It's worth knowing which really going on.

0:04.0

This is the Atlanta Journal Constitution.

0:08.0

The phone call from the White House came in on the afternoon of January 2, 2021.

0:17.0

Hello, Brad and Ryan and everybody. We appreciate the time and the call.

0:22.0

So we've spent a lot of time on this and if we could just go over some of the numbers,

0:28.0

I think it's pretty clear that we won. We won very substantially, Georgia.

0:34.0

Georgia's Secretary of State, Brad Raffinsberger and members of his staff took the call.

0:40.0

What President Donald Trump didn't know? Someone was recording it.

0:44.0

What I want to do is this. I just want to find 11,780 votes,

0:54.0

which is one more that we have because we won the state and flipping the state is a great testament to our country.

1:02.0

It's a testament that they can admit to a mistake or whatever you want to call it if it was a mistake.

1:11.0

A lot of people think it wasn't a mistake. It was much more criminal than that.

1:16.0

But it's a big problem in Georgia and it's not a problem that's going away.

1:24.0

President Trump was right. It hasn't gone away, not by a long shot.

1:28.0

A special purpose grand jury is now meeting in Atlanta to investigate what happened.

1:34.0

It's primary focus. The phone call from President Trump to Secretary Raffinsberger.

1:40.0

This is the ninth season of breakdown from the Atlanta Journal Constitution, the Trump grand jury.

1:48.0

Trump is on record calling it a perfect phone call. But legal experts tell us the former president broke the law during the hour long conversation.

1:56.0

Because the central question is one for the history books. Did the sitting president commit a crime during his call to Georgia?

2:02.0

Looking specifically at the Trump situation,

2:06.0

when I read and then heard the actual tape recording of the conversation,

2:12.0

it jumped out at me as being about as clear and specific and unambiguous evidence of a crime.

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