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Science of Reading: The Podcast

S9 E10: Phonology as a settled science, with Jane Ashby, Ph.D.

Science of Reading: The Podcast

Amplify Education

Education, Science, How To, Social Sciences, Early Literacy, Amplify, Science Of Reading

4.5642 Ratings

🗓️ 12 February 2025

⏱️ 46 minutes

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Summary

In this episode of Science of Reading: The Podcast, Susan Lambert is joined by Jane Ashby, professor in the Reading Science doctoral program at Mount St. Joseph University. They define the concept of “settled science” as a jumping-off point before digging into phonology and the argument for not always basing your teaching practice on the newest research. Dr. Ashby touches on the impact of phonology on comprehension, the Matthew Effect, and why the term “instant words” is more accurate than “s...

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0:00.0

Hi listeners, it's Susan here. Just in time for the school year, I have a brand new resource to tell you about.

0:07.0

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0:13.7

including a detailed breakdown of the reading rope and the 10 foundational science of reading principles.

0:20.0

It also provides key information on dyslexia, assessment,

0:24.2

serving multilingual learners, and so much more.

0:27.4

It's packed with beautiful diagrams,

0:29.7

a perfect compliment to the podcast if I do say so myself.

0:34.0

Download your science of reading guide at amplify.com.com slash S-O-R guide.

0:41.7

If there's a problem with the phonological system, it's going to percolate all the way up through learning how to read, learning how to spell, learning how to write.

0:55.9

This is Susan Lambert and welcome to Science of Reading the podcast from Amplify.

1:02.6

Today we have another episode in our season-long reading reboot, reexamining and building

1:08.2

on foundational literacy concepts.

1:13.9

This time, we're focusing on phonological awareness.

1:16.8

I'm joined by Dr. Jane Ashby,

1:21.9

professor in the Reading Science doctoral program at Mount St. Joseph University and co-author of the 2012 book Psychology of Reading.

1:26.6

Dr. Ashby is among the co-authors of teaching phonemic awareness in 2024,

1:32.1

a guide for educators.

1:34.5

And on this episode, she discusses why phonology is so critical in reading and how it impacts

1:40.8

all aspects of the simple view of reading.

1:49.4

She also takes on another great question from our listener mailbag and discusses the concept of settled science.

1:51.6

I'm now thrilled to welcome Dr. Jane Ashby.

1:58.9

Dr. Jane Ashby, thank you so much for joining us on today's episode.

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