In the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Ghost, here goes.

I mean, amen.

This is Pints with Jack, Season 8, Episode 1.

Welcome to Season 8.

Welcome. Welcome to Season 8. Welcome, friends, to Pints with Jack, your favourite CS-Lewist podcast run by three Falkandrians, Andrew, Matt, and myself, David.

This season, we're once again following the adventures of Elwyn Ransom, who this time is

exploring Perilandra.

And today is our season kickoff.

Gentlemen, are you ready for season eight?

I am so ready for season eight.

This is one of my very favorite books.

But I'm going to rename Paralandra and call it by its proper title, Ungit.

Ooh, this reminds me.

Oh, boy, here we go.

Andrew, we need to do more or less a happy hour with you, myself and Mary Margaret, potentially Kristen, because she read Tilly

Faces. Yeah. And she just wasn't drawn into it. Look her down. She was like, I don't really know

what it was about. I don't really get it. No, no, no. It's a repulsive book. I remember doing

some work with Max McLean on it one summer. And he said,

I really don't like Orwal. She's not likable. Or very relatable. Like, it's just so extreme.

No, I think she's eminently relatable because we are, we are her. She is us. I think that was the intention. But she is the

worst parts of us. Yeah. But like she kind of pointed that out too, like this seems pretty

extreme. It was kind of our dialogue around it. It just was so hard to, we all have those flaws,

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