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S803: The Sovereign Man

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Javier Leiva

True Crime, Society & Culture, Technology

4.72.2K Ratings

🗓️ 31 August 2021

⏱️ 36 minutes

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Summary

Sean David Morton was arrested in 2016 after being charged with more than 50 counts related to filing phony tax documents and bogus government bonds. He was also accused of conspiracy to defraud the IRS. These are similar tactics used by sovereign citizens—but Sean David Mortin doesn't like that label. You see, Sean David Morton's name is synonymous with the sovereign citizen movement. The New York Times wrote a whole piece about him titled, "How Sovereign Citizens Helped Swindle $1 billion from the government they disavow." So, when it comes to Sovereign Citizens, I thought Sean Mortin was the guy. But now he's telling me that sovereign citizens are idiots. Interesting. If you're unfamiliar with this sub-culture, you should check out my episode on Sovereign Citizens. To listen to my interview with Sean David Morton, check out the episode The Sovereign Man where ever you listen to podcasts. Patreon Bonus with Sean David Morton To listen to more of my interview with Sean Morton, check out the FREE bonus episode on Patreon. Story idea? If you have a story to share, email Javier at info [at] pretendradio [dot] org. For more episodes like this, visit pretendradio.org. To get early releases and bonus episodes, go to pretendradio.org/donate Today's episode was written and edited by Javier Leiva Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Creative Papple

0:07.5

Hey, is this Sean?

0:08.8

It is.

0:09.4

I just got your email.

0:10.7

So I figured instead of flying, I was like, let me just give him a call and see if

0:14.8

now it's a good time.

0:17.0

Well, it's not because I've got a bunch of stuff I got to do today.

0:20.7

Obviously, I just got out of, uh,

0:24.2

just was released Friday.

0:26.0

Sean David Morton was just released from federal prison last week.

0:30.4

And it looks like I caught him at a bad time, so I guess this interview is a bust.

0:35.2

And I've got a bunch of errands I have to do and things I have to check into and all that stuff.

0:39.1

The calories or everything, all right?

0:40.8

Oh, wait, wait, wait.

0:42.0

It looks like the interview is back on.

0:44.1

We could always reschedule, but I'm doing well, man.

0:46.4

And I'm glad to hear that you're in remission.

0:48.5

Sean says he's been battling cancer for the last several years while in prison.

0:52.9

On his Twitter feed, his wife posted a picture of a tumor growing on the side of his neck

0:57.5

that is the size of a gum ball.

0:59.4

In the tweet, she was planning for help from the real Donald Trump,

1:03.0

Kim Kardashian, Tucker Carlson, and the late Rush Limbaugh.

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