I'm Molly Wansall and I'm Geoffrey Wansall and for the last 16 years or thereabouts we have been having lunch every Saturday and often our conversation turns to murder and that's what's prompted us to launch this true crime podcast called Blood Ties.

Hi everyone, welcome back to the Blood Ties podcast. I'm Molly Wansall and I'm here with my father Geoffrey Wansall.

Hello everyone, welcome back. Thank you so much for listening and all over the world. I'm always fascinated by where all our listeners are.

It was brought home to me this morning when I got an email overnight for a man who started listening when we started and now lives in the USA and is still listening.

Oh, a long time listener, thank you.

Thank you.

Anyway, as he says, I listened to your fantastic podcast and have done so since the beginning.

It's a nice man called David Boots. Hello, David. He says, I listened to your fantastic podcast and have done so since the beginning.

It's a nice man called David Boots.

Hello, David.

He then went on to berate me.

He says, I've now reside in the USA, and I must say I took some little umbrance at the notion you suggest that USA has done poorly with regards to COVID.

Well, I'm very happy.

I withdraw it at once.

I do think there can be a bit of an argument about COVID, but suffice to say, more than 400,000 people have died from it in the United States, but never mind.

I think we can just safely say to just disrupt anyone getting cross that we don't think

that we've handled it very well.

No, we don't.

And that will probably be enough.

Yes, I think we can share the blame there.

And David, if you're handling COVID well, good work.

Good for you.

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