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S8 Ep257: THE ATOMIC BOMB AND POST-WAR LEADERSHIP Colleague Craig Symonds. Nimitz and King believed a naval blockade could force Japan's surrender without a costly invasion, which they feared would result in millions of deaths. Nimitz was informed early about the

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John Batchelor

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🗓️ 28 December 2025

⏱️ 8 minutes

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THE ATOMIC BOMB AND POST-WAR LEADERSHIP Colleague Craig Symonds. Nimitz and King believed a naval blockade could force Japan's surrender without a costly invasion, which they feared would result in millions of deaths. Nimitz was informed early about the atomic bomb to ensure it wouldn't interfere with operations. After the war, despite resistance from the aviation community and Secretary Forrestal, Nimitz served a two-year term as Chief of Naval Operations. Spruance, denied a fifth star in favor of Halsey, took the high road by leading the Naval War College, ensuring future officers learned from the Pacific war's lessons. NUMBER 8


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0:00.0

This is CBSI in the world. I'm John Batson with Professor Craig Simons.

0:10.0

Nimitz at war command leadership from Pearl Harbor to Tokyo Bay.

0:14.3

Ernest King, Cominch, who is always present, 16 times they meet.

0:19.3

King's messages to Nimitz and Nimitz's messages to King.

0:24.3

The professor is quoted throughout the book. Now they're debating in person and also by wire

0:31.1

about what is to be done about the Japanese homelands who will not surrender. The opinion I take it, professor, from

0:38.6

Nimitz and King's point of view is blockade will force them to the peace table.

0:44.1

I think that's true. I think naval officers at almost every level did not believe an invasion

0:50.2

of the home islands was worth the risk. Here we are back to calculated risk.

0:56.2

It would cost so much, and we've all heard the line.

0:58.6

Oh, it would cost 100,000 American killed, very likely, perhaps more.

1:03.7

Fewer consider the fact that it would have cost possibly millions of Japanese to die because Japanese culture was such that surrender

1:13.6

was so obnoxious that no Japanese soldier, no Japanese participant in the war at any level

1:21.2

could honorably surrender himself, therefore you must fight to the death. So if everyone in Japan

1:27.2

fights to the death,

1:28.6

what are the consequences of that? There was literally talk within the combined staff in Japan

1:34.8

of the honorable death of a hundred million. Now, the prospect of that was so horrifying that

1:42.1

both King and especially Nimitz believed that avoiding an invasion

1:47.1

by depending on a strict naval blockade executed mostly by submarines, by the way, as well as bombing

1:55.9

from the air, would create a circumstance where the Japanese would have to accept the Potsdam agreement,

2:01.8

and that is to say, accept an end of the war on terms that the United States would dictate to them.

2:07.7

Now, that did happen, but of course we know there was also an outside influence that we may talk about subsequent.

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