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two three please enjoy responsibly hello and welcome to seeing red I'm Mark and I'm Bethan. We are on our end of season break right now, busily preparing for season

nine which will premiere on the 8th of March. But we didn't want to leave you hang in. We've delved into our archives and over the next two

weeks we'll be taking it in turns to reopen a case that has stayed with us. This week it's My 10 and I want to replay a two-parter that also featured in season 7 which was the

Golden State Killer. The reason that I've chosen to revisit this case is because I talked in the episode about how this was a

true crime case that had been part of my thoughts and my kind of true crime background it was a case that I'd heard loads about that I'd always

been fascinated by the absolute depravity of this man the way he was so cruel the way he taunted his victims he

absolutely reveled in the power that he held over them through fear he'd always stuck with me and then he was caught and it was just incredible.

He'd terrorised California between 1973 and 1986 and eventually in 2020 he was in with how I would kind of tell him about cases that we find interesting, how I would kind of tell him about something that I'd learned about that I wanted to talk about.

And I think it would be a great opportunity for us to have some more conversations around

once you've listened to this episode again, where were you when you heard the news?

Had you heard of the case prior to 2020 or was this something new where you like me you'd read

Michelle Mac Manara's book and you were fascinated by the case I'd just love to know more about sort of how

How it all kind of came about for you like it did for me. Oh, Hello and I'm seeing Red a true-grine podcast I'm Mark and I'm Bethan welcome to the show guys thank you for joining us once again this week yeah just the two of us this time

there's no Adam there's no yes yeah we can make it if we try can't we Beth we can

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