Welcome to Live Well Anyway. I'm your host, Mackenzie Kappa. On this podcast, we journey together

in learning how to feel healthy, look good, and plan lives we actually like in the midst of all

the everyday chaos. I'm so glad you're here. And today I have Hannah Brencher back on the show. I have

had Hannah on twice before. I love every time I get to talk to her. And this time felt especially

fun. I feel like we've both done a little growing up over the last six or seven years or so.

And it comes through in this conversation. We were just able to be so

real and not have to be experts about anything, but just talk about what it means to be able to

step away from our phones, be able to get a little bit of perspective and quiet and live in the

moment. I found this book to be incredibly challenging,

but in the best way possible, and also really comforting to see her going through these things

and figuring these things out. It was an excellent read. It was such a good challenge I feel like

is the wrong word, but like prompting to be more present in your life. It was such a good challenge, I feel like is the wrong word, but like

prompting to be more present in your life. It was a message that I didn't even really think

I necessarily needed as we talk about in today's episode. But I really appreciated once I got

into it. Her writing is beautiful. She does such a good job and this conversation was so

much fun. So let's not waste any time. Let's jump right into this episode with Hannah Brencher.

Welcome back, Hannah. Hello. I'm so excited to be here. I'm so excited to have you. Whenever I see

the little subject line that says, Hannah Bredcher has a new book. I'm like, yes. I don't know what it is. But yes. Thank you so much. That means so much to me. Absolutely. I feel like it's kind of interesting because I feel like you've been on this journey with me over the past few years because my first book of yours that I read

was come matter here.

Okay.

Yep.

Yep.

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