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I want the knowledge, I want the precious knowledge, but I want also the kids to know what to do when they don't know what to do.

I want them to become their own teachers.

This is Susan Lambert and welcome to Science of Reading the podcast from Amplify, where the science of reading lives.

Today I'm so excited to bring you a conversation with one of the biggest names in education, John Hattie,

Emeritus Laureate Professor at the Melbourne Graduate School of Education at the University of Melbourne. Professor Hattie has authored more than 60 books,

including 40 Unvisible Learning, which we'll talk about in depth. This was an expansive conversation in which we talked

about everything from his meta-analysis research, to the importance of studying excellence,

to his thoughts about AI, and education. One note before we get started. When we connected with

Professor Hattie halfway around the world, it was bright

and early in Australia. So be aware that during the conversation, you might hear the occasional

sound of a pooch who was perhaps eager for his morning breakfast. With that heads up out of the way,

here's John Hattie. Well, Dr. John Hattie, thank you so much for joining us

on today's episode. What an honor. It's good to be here, Susan. Thank you. Before we jump into

all the fun and fancy of this episode, I wonder if you might introduce yourself to our listeners and talk a little

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