For the wise men of old, the cardinal problem of human life was how to conform the soul to objective reality,

and the solution was wisdom, self-discipline, and virtue.

For the modern, the cardinal problem is how to conform reality to the wishes of man, and the solution is technique.

This is Pints with Jack, Season 7, Episode 29. Narnie a month. Not a Tame Lion. After Hours with Dr.

Terry Gillespie. Welcome everyone here on Pints with Jack.

We're recording our way through the works of C.S. Lewis.

But today we're in one of our themed months, specifically Narnia month.

And now that we've finished the Chronicles, we're interviewing some more scholars, and today I am

speaking with Dr. Terry Gladyspie. He has a master's degree in history from the University of

Oregon and a doctorate in spiritual formation from Northwind Seminary, where he now teaches

inkling studies, spiritual formation, and writing. He is listed in Who's Who in America and has been

the recipient of a number of awards, including a distinguished alumni award in the Advanced

Speakers and Writers' Editor of the Year Award. He has written over a dozen books, including

Discovering God Through the Arts, The Prayers by Jane Austen.

And the book we'll be discussing today, Not a Tame Lion, the Life, Teachings, and Legacy of C.S. Lewis.

He has two books, Book of the Year awards from Christianity Today, as well as Book of the Year awards from Gospel Coalition, and the

Evangelical Christian Publishers Association. His most acclaimed book, so maybe you guys should check

it out, is 75 masterpieces every Christian should know. Terry, welcome to Pints with Jack.

It is a pleasure and an honor to be with you, a place where all good Lewis lovers get

to hang out and talk about all things.

I got to say, too, I was excited for this because your title of this book, funnily enough,

so I'm getting married in a few months, so I'm engaged.

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