S709: The Liquor Guy

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Javier Leiva

True Crime, Society & Culture, Technology

4.7 • 2.2K Ratings

🗓️ 27 April 2021

⏱️ 30 minutes

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There are two sides to Billy. There's Billy, who just wants to do the right thing. And then there's the criminal lurking from within. So which way did he go? Did Billy end up becoming a criminal? Or did he choose to be the good guy in his own story? Well, he decided to do both. If you've listened to this show long enough, you know I go to great lengths to fact-check my episodes. But today is different because it's tough to corroborate Billy's stories. And that's okay. One of my favorite movies is Big Fish with Ewan McGregor. It's about a man who lived an extraordinary life. In the end, it turned out that most of his tall tales were true--but just a little skewed due to time. And that's how I feel about Billy. Some of these stories are too incredible to be real. But they might be. He's always wrestled between being the good guy and the bad guy. And in the end, managed to be both a criminal and a cop. So lean back, relax, and grab your adult beverage of choice. Because today we're going to spend the next half hour or so chatting with Billy the Liquor Guy. Get a copy of Under Too Long by Billy the Liquor Guy: https://amzn.to/3sWlmjo Story idea? If you have a story to share, email Javier at info [at] pretendradio [dot] org. For more episodes like this visit pretendradio.org. To get early releases and bonus episodes go to pretendradio.org/donate Today's episode was written and edited by Javier Leiva Featured promo for Missing Persons and DNA:ID podcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:34.4	now. I'm a Gemini. I always noticed I had two personalities. There are two sides to
0:44.4	Billy. There's the Billy who just wants to do the right thing, and then there's the criminal
0:48.6	lurking from within. And then as I got older, I could kind of switch to the other person.
0:53.9	Billy had conflicting influences growing up. My grandfather worked for the mafia. I had
0:59.0	uncles and were cops, but my grandfather was very well respected because he was respected
1:04.3	member of the mafia in our area. And I felt safe for my grandfather because he was a tough
1:08.7	SOB. I did not know what he was doing, but we go to coffee shops or even bars and I get
1:13.1	a soda or coffee shops and I get a donut and a soda, and he was making collections.
1:18.0	So you were just got a restaurant and people were just giving you free stuff? Yes, for me
1:23.5	and I'd sit at the bar and he'd be talking to somebody and have the time I didn't. I never
1:27.5	finished my soda because it was always like, we got to go. You know, we got to go. Yeah, and so
1:33.2	tell me about your uncle being in law enforcement. Well, he was a deputy police chief of Yuriki
1:38.7	Roasterer ranks, and I respected him, but I enjoyed the time with my grandfather more. I just knew
1:44.6	my heart. I'd never wanted to be a cop. He has a teenager. I'd like the criminal activity more.
1:50.9	Since so you were, you were kind of fighting these two, the dark side and the light side,
1:55.6	your whole life, and you were drawn to the dark side. Yes, I was. Yes, I was. And then for whatever
2:01.7	reason when I start to see my cousins coming out of jail, I said, that's not for me either.
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