I'm Molly Wansall and I'm Geoffrey Wansel and for the last 16 years or thereabouts we have been having lunch every Saturday and often our conversation turns to murder

and that's what's prompted us to launch this true crime podcast called blood ties.

Hi everyone welcome back to the Blood Ties podcast I'm Molly Wansall and I'm here with my father, Geoffrey Wansall.

Hello everyone, welcome back. It seems to have been a long August. I don't know. August is not my favourite month.

Everybody seems to disappear or, you know, it's just an odd month. I know the famous quote is April is a cruel month, but I've always thought August was a bit of a cruel. I know you hate August. And not my favourite month. Well, good news. It's nearly over. Yes. We're right at the end. To me it's just like, oh, well, then the year's nearly over and, like, what have I achieved? At any moment it will be Christmas and then it'll be Wimbledon, except there won't be Wimbledon. Yeah, I shouldn't have quite the same thing this year, isn't it? Anyway, you have been away for a little bit. I was away. That's nice. Yeah, it was nice. Well, the weather wasn't very good.

No, no.

But on the other hand, at least it was a change of scene. Was a change of scene. You would like a change of scene. There are moments when I'd like a change of scene. These four walls getting a bit small. But on the other hand, I'm very happy with what I do. and I had an unexpected week off this week

because I thought I was filming, but I wasn't.

So I had an unexpected week off this week because I thought I was filming, but I wasn't. So I didn't have to prepare to two other cases. So that's a kind of, for me, that's the sort of... It was a bit of a holiday week, then, end of August holiday week for you. A bit of a holiday. You know, that's rather good. Yeah. Very good. Very good.

How are you otherwise?

I'm in pretty reasonable form.

I'm lucky enough, as you know, to review lots of books.

And I'm currently just finishing Richard Osmond, the television presenter's debut crime thriller called The Thursday Murder Club,

which is going to be, I'm afraid, to say,

not only just a big hit, but a very big hit.

He's already sold it to Stephen Spielberg and Amblin.

It's very funny.

It's very good. It's got a great plot and what i love about it of course is it's

four principal characters are all old age pensioners oh that's so fun they're all every one of

them is a septuagenarian or older no wonder you like it. Yeah, absolutely.

It's terrific.

It looks great.

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