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Please enjoy responsibly. You're not going to be. Oh, Hello and welcome to Seeing Red at True Crime Podcast I'm Mark

and I'm Bethan. Hi everybody

first of all apologies for my absence last week. I was doing

a million and one family things to celebrate the little baby's first birthday and it just

reminds me around this time of your mark that that was the second time you had to go

solo for me so thank you but what a year it's been yeah it's like it's kind of

flown by so quickly and for you, yeah, second addition to your family.

So it's weird that that was a year ago, isn't it?

And I was really getting to miss last week's episode because that was a case I was really excited for you to cover

but I have listened I've only listened to half so far but I have listened so it was a really good

job on like a very very tough case mark so you could only be bothered with half the episode. I only had time for half the episode. I will be listening to the other half soon. Yeah I think I might have said in the episode but I really wanted to cover it with you.

It's one that we could have had a lot of discussion around but equally because we'd just come

past the five year anniversary I wanted to kind of... It was perfect timing actually. Yeah, I just

wanted to sort of pay my respects by revisiting it and not forgetting it really, but I think it's something

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