I'm Molly Wansall and I'm Geoffrey Wansall and for the last 16 years or thereabouts we have been having lunch every Saturday and often our conversation turns to murder and that's what's prompted us to launch this true crime podcast called blood ties

hi everyone welcome back to the blood ties podcast I'm Molly Wancall and I'm here with my father, Geoffrey Wansall. Hello everyone. Welcome back. It's a privilege to be here. It's indeed it's a delight, though, in these quite complicated times. Yeah, we haven't had a very successful week, have we, Dad? Not really. Mo caught the COVID.

Mo, Mo's got the COVID.

Yes, poor old sausage. So we're doing this remotely again.

Yeah, sorry about that. We were meant to be together and recording a very jolly video for our Patreon, but you will still get the video, and Jeffrey is wearing a hat.

Yes, I'm wearing a fez, which was actually bought in the Grand Suke in Tunis, from a shop that sold only fezzes.

Only fezzes. Yes, it's got a very grand box as well. It couldn't get much more authentic than this phase, I promise you.

It doesn't look like Tommy Cooper's phase, but it's the Tunisians wear.

You look very chic.

You're in red and I'm in green because we're festive.

We're being festive for our viewers.

Yeah.

But it has been a bit of a tough week because Mo really hasn't been well.

And it's a worry and it's right before Christmas and all the plans get messed around and

everything shut down again and it looks like, oh, I'm not going to go there.

I'm just going to try and be positive all the way through this broadcast.

I think it's, well, you could probably handle it if I didn't have COVID and I wasn't allowed to see any of my family.

But there you go.

Yeah.

It's what it is.

It is.

I'm afraid what it is.

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