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For chicken worth dipping, it better be bird's eye. Hello and welcome to Series 7 episode 14 of Out with Susie Ruffle.

This is the penultimate episode of the series.

So we've got just one more coming next week.

Before we begin, I always need to do my classic thank-cues.

Lots of people got in touch last week after Reese's episode.

It felt like it really resonated with many of you, so I'm delighted that so many of you enjoyed it and thank you very very much for listening

Today I've got a brilliant conversation with Laura Kaye who is an author and a journalist and I'm currently reading her book Wild Things, which I highly recommend.

I'm thoroughly enjoying it.

It's one of those books where I can't wait to get into bed to read.

I actually said to Alice this morning, we've got to go to bed early tonight

because I really need to finish this book. It's one of those, you can't put it down, so I highly recommend it.

And we had a really brilliant chat about what it's like to be queer in the publishing industry,

what it's like sharing your stories, making sure that queer stories are front and

center rather than a minor character in a straight person's story. Anyway I think she's

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