Hi, this is Sarah O'Dell, author of an upcoming book on the medical inkling Dr.

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Myths communicate truth about a reality that reaches beyond our usual experience.

A compass for deep heaven, navigating the C.S. Louis Ransom Trilogy.

Season 6, episode 6. A compass for deep heaven after hours with Dr. Diana Glyer.

Welcome, everyone. Here on Pines with Jack, we're working our way through the works of C.S. Lewis.

As we mentioned at the start of the month, from time to time, we'll be consulting with experts about the book which we're reading this season, the first in the Ransom trilogy, out of the silent planet.

And today we're delighted to have Dr. Diana Glyer return to the show once again

to discuss a book she edited on the subject in 2021. In today's opening quotation about truth

and myth came from her book, A Compass for Deep Heaven. And we selected these, particularly this

quote, because these ideas are really, the ideas that are

going to come across in the Ransom trilogy are really powerful.

And we want to unpack some of those and give you a bit of a teaser of that that she

through this book demonstrates to us. And so we'll have a conversation on that here today. this book, demonstrates to us.

And so we'll have a conversation on that here today.

But first, let me introduce our guest.

Dr. Diana Pavlik Glyer is an award-winning writer who has spent more than 40 years combing through archives and studying old manuscripts and has read every single word

of every single inkling. Her scholarship, her teaching, and her works as an artist all circle

back to one common theme. Creativity thrives in community. She has been on this show several

times and she's returning once again to speak to us about

out of the silent planet and a book which she edited in 2021, a compass for deep heaven

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