Hello Guy, how are you? I'm very well. You've been to the Lake District.

Oh yeah, I love the lakes, you know, I love climbing in the lakes and walking in the lakes. I've been doing it for a long time.

You know what first turned me on to the lakes was reading Lord of the Rings when I was a kid.

I know the sounds like you, but this is in the early 70s and then getting a school trip to go there and I literally thought I was in middle earth.

But there's something relevant here as well because I was also obsessed with the whole folk revival that was happening. I mean I can't believe I jaggled it all. I'm a glam rock kid. I'm not I'm a prog rock kid and then there's folk music and maybe it was Prague actually that led me to folk.

It would have been.

Do you know what, there's a funny thing though,

if I can just interject, because I remember reading in Mickey Green's book,

the Clash's road manager.

He was saying when Tony James used to share a house

a flat with Mick Jones he would go off rambling he would go off to the Lake

District walking Tony James yeah he's to it about then and had to keep it really quiet because it was just so unpunk.

It's really hard going up those hills in drain pipe jeans and...

With bondage trousers. Your legs tied together.

But this folk revival thing kind of edges us towards who we, our guest today really, doesn't in fact there's lots of connections that we have there are there are so many connections this guy is like he is such a rock on-tors archetype in what he covers and with both of us Gary and in so many areas down to the

band where and in fact I've got what I'd like to say about him is this guy is not only was he in the room where it happens but the chances are he'd hired

the room where it happens.

Absolutely you're talking about the UFO club where Pink Floyd started him and and and hoppy Hopkins or

Yeah, they they open that club as young people as young kids. I think you know he's he's an American and he come over America he's American right is

America he's America yeah no he's hope it's very I mean fantastically that that American

folk blues background which was very very academic and intellectual you know he started promoting gigs at Harvard

Then Kate came over started the UFO club started psychedelic pretty much produce those early pink Floyd records well

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