Boxer turned bouncer Viv Graham was one of the northeast most notorious hard men.

It was huge, you were strong, we could take anybody out.

Not many men on earth could match Viv Graham.

But his life of violence led to his downfall.

Why did it happen?

Why did they do that?

How did Viv Graham build an empire?

It was the power, the presence, the aura. And who was he, really?

Gangster, the story of Viv Graham.

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Lauren Jenkins, Mark Jones,

Garthry so where Nicki Robinson, please,

somebody offer me one positive to start this pod.

Well, I can't, I'll put my hand up for a positive and fortunately it doesn't involve any Welsh

players or people or supporters or anything, but it's a rugby story, it's a good rugby story.

I think it is actually in the public domain now so it's

not the great story I thought it might be that no one would have known but it

involves Kelly Brown and Mario Toejay so Kelly Brown was up in Scotland as I was less foreseen.

Gotta spend a bit of time with Kelly and actually saw him on Sunday morning flying back.

And he was flying back to London with a bottle of whiskey.

I said, oh that looks a nice bottle of whiskey. He was, oh, that looks a nice bottle that was

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